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                TO OVERSEED OR TO NOT TO OVERSEED..... MAYBE INTERSEED---THIS 
                  IS THE DILEMMA!! TO OVERSEED WITH RYE OR BLUEBONNETS... THIS 
                  IS THE DECISION! Do you like having a green lawn throughout the 
                  year? Do you like to mow, irrigate, and fertilize during the 
                  winter? Is it appropriate to overseed your lawn for the winter? 
                  These are just a few questions that you need to ask yourself 
                  before you overseed your turf. Warm season grasses such as Bermuda 
                  and zoysias go dormant during the winter months and can be over 
                  seeded with a cool season grass variety to maintain green color 
                  and adequate quality. This DOES NOT include St. Augustine grass 
                  which stays green-and-growing all South Texas "winter" 
                  long-unless we have a hard freeze below 20 degrees F. To gather 
                  some insight on this topic, I used some of the information from 
                  Drs. Jim McAfee and Roger Havlak, Texas A&M AgriLife Extension Service Turfgrass Specialists.
                  The following is what they have to say about overseeding. The best time to overseed the home lawn is mid 
                  to late October and early November, but more accurately after 
                  the first frost. Annual ryegrass is the fastest germinating 
                  variety and probably the cheapest. It looks very similar to 
                  perennial ryegrass with a dark green color and shiny leaves. 
                  Annual ryegrass grows quickly and requires frequent mowing (around 
                  2 to 2.5 inch height) especially during late fall and early 
                  spring. Their water use rates are moderate and fertility requirements 
                  are low - maybe one to two pounds of nitrogen over the winter 
                  months. For a dense stand of rye grass, overseed at a rate of 
                  about 10-12 pounds of seed per thousand (33 feet by 33 feet) 
                  square feet. And keep the lawn irrigated for several weeks to 
                  ensure germination.  There are a couple of new annual ryegrasses from 
                  Lloyd Nelson at the Overton station. One is Excella and the 
                  other is Pantera. While these are annual types, they look and 
                  grow more like the perennial types. Texas A&M recommends 
                  the Pantera ( better color ) for homeowners anytime. The annual 
                  types will die out faster in the spring and therefore don't 
                  create as much a problem for the turfgrass growing in the lawn. How to Overseed? I would recommend aerifying the lawn 30 days prior 
                  to overseeding if possible. For some homeowners, this is not 
                  possible or too hard to do. Right before you overseed, scalp 
                  the lawn (NEVER scalp St. Augustine!) down as low as your mower 
                  will go. This will help get the seed down in contact with the 
                  soil, which is very important. Fertilize overseeded sites with 
                  a complete fertilizer such as 15-5-10 at 6 pounds 1,000 square 
                  feet. Apply fertilizer immediately after seeding so as not to 
                  "burn" the young seedlings. After seedlings emerge, 
                  light applications of nitrogen will help produce a dense, healthy 
                  stand of grass. As soon as the seed is planted, start watering. 
                  Water lightly a couple of times per day until the seed start 
                  to germinate and grow - this is not like when planting bermuda 
                  grass seed that you should water two or three times daily until 
                  the seed sprouts. If you water rye seed too much, it will rot. Overseeding-Should You Do It? Overseeding is defined as seeding onto an existing 
                  turf, usually with a temporary cool-season turfgrass (i.e. annual 
                  or perennial ryegrass), to provide green active grass growth 
                  during dormancy of the warm season turfgrass (i.e. bermudagrass). 
                  It is used extensively on sports fields and golf courses, and 
                  to some extent, on commercial sites and home lawns. Sports field 
                  managers and golf course superintendents overseed their turfgrasses 
                  primarily to offset the excessive traffic during winter play 
                  as well as to have a green, quality turf. But there are negative 
                  effects to overseeding. Competition between the cool and warm 
                  season grasses can be great, especially in the early spring 
                  when the warm season turf is trying to re-grow after winter 
                  dormancy-often referred to as 'spring transition'. If the spring 
                  is cool and wet it will favor the persistence of the overseeded 
                  grass at the expense of the re-growth of the warm season grass. 
                  Improved turf-type annual ryegrasses typically have a better 
                  spring transition than do the over seeded perennial ryegrasses. 
                  In years that favor continued persistence of the overseeding, 
                  there can be significant damage to the bermudagrass turf. Another 
                  big negative with overseeding is if the existing turfgrass should 
                  be "scalped down" to provide a seedbed to favor a 
                  quick fall transition to the overseeding turfgrass. This scalping, 
                  along with the fall competition from the cool season grass prevents 
                  the warm season turfgrass from being able to store the necessary 
                  carbohydrates in the fall months. This means the turfgrass is 
                  going into winter dormancy in a weaker condition, with less 
                  stored reserves to recover well the following spring. If you 
                  have a great deal of traffic during the winter period at your 
                  site, then overseeding may be appropriate.  What About Overseeding Damaged Turf? Overseeding this fall might lead to warm-season 
                  turf with some very serious problems next year because of the 
                  summer we have had this year. A healthy warm season turf being 
                  over seeded is severely weakened as it is from the competition 
                  of the aggressive cool-season turfgrass being planted into it. 
                  Over seeded warm-season turfs are weak and sickly looking in 
                  the spring when they transition back to the dominant turf - 
                  imagine what you will likely have if you are overseeding an 
                  already thin turf this fall. Next year will be the easiest transition 
                  year you have ever had - know why? There won't be a transition 
                  for a lot of us because there won't be a warm season grass remaining! 
                  Instead of overseeding, you should raise the turf cutting height 
                  and make sure to apply a Winterizer fertilizer. Allow it to 
                  fully prepare for the upcoming winter by naturally hardening 
                  off through the day/night heating/cooling patterns of this time 
                  of year . You should also consider replacing large areas of 
                  damaged turf with Floratam St. Augustine (plantanswers.com/grass.htm)
                  until late November. Turfgrass producers such as Milbergers 
                  are selling a 50-yard pallet of Floratam for $160. A 50-yard 
                  pallet covers 450 square feet with 150 pieces of sod which are 
                  24 inches by 16 inches in size. A half-pallet or 25 yard pallet 
                  (225 square feet) of Floratam is available for $110. Milbergers 
                  will also take orders for smaller amounts to help people with 
                  less damage. But remember, ONLY Floratam should be used to replace 
                  the damaged St. Augustine caused by this summer's problems. 
                  See: plantanswers.com/brown_spots.htm.
                  For those with small areas, take advantage of FLORATAM FRIDAY  ST. AUGUSTINE GRASS at Milberger’s Nursery
                  (milbergernursery.com/now-on-sale)
                  where you can by pieces of Floratam  every Friday --  Weather permitting.   A  16 inch x 24 inch piece costs Only $1.29! Expect a lot of winter weeds in an area with a 
                  thin turf cover. The thin turf that has received some rainfall 
                  during the last couple of weeks is sure to be invaded by a bumper 
                  crop of winter weeds. If you are not over-seeding, apply a fall 
                  pre-emergence herbicide AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. What is being used: 
                  these are the most common choices - prodiamine, pendimethalin, 
                  Balan plus oryzalin (Amaze) and dithiopyro (Dimension). All 
                  of these are excellent PRE materials, each with their own strengths 
                  and weaknesses. Be very careful with late season cultivation events on warm 
                  season grasses after the summer we have had. The weaker your 
                  warm-season turf is, the more likely the damage this winter.
 What About Instead of Overseeding Trying "Interseeding" 
                  of Thinning Turf?
 The biggest problem encountered by homeowners, an especially 
                  pet owners, in this area is thinning turf in shady, high-traffic-by-pets 
                  areas usually planted with St. Augustine grass because of its 
                  shade tolerance. Throughout this column, it has been stated 
                  over and over NOT to overseed St. Augustine- but what about 
                  Interseeding of Pantera rye with St. Augustine. The term overseeding 
                  means to create a thick turf of rye on top of an established 
                  bermuda or zoysia turf. What I am proposing is that you folks 
                  with a sparse stand of St. Augustine in shady, pet-trampled 
                  areas, cut the overseeding rate by one-half (use 5 - 6 pounds 
                  per 1000) in an interseeding program. The benefits of interseeding 
                  are thicker turf and more organic matter added to the soil from 
                  the expanding rye root system. Cereal rye (Elbon) has been used 
                  for years in home gardens as the best nematode control and source 
                  of large quantities of "green manure" furnished by 
                  the decomposing rootsystem of the rye in the spring. See:
 aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/PLANTanswers/earthkind/ekgarden26.html 
                  
                  If you want to try this use Pantera rye. Pantera rye is being sold in 50 pound bags for $90 (25 pound bags for $50) at local nurseries such as Milberger's Landscape Nursery. A 50-pound bag will cover 5000 square feet (one pound per 100 square feet) and is a lot cheaper and easier than resodding.   HOWEVER, if you are trying to solve thinning turf in shady, high-traffic-by-pets areas you will be more satisfied sodding with Zoysia or St. Augustine grass because of its shade and traffic tolerance.  If possible, aerify the area as recommended for the overseeding above. Fertilize periodically as well to maximize rye grass growth. You may have to mow more often than overseeding because the rye will not be growing densely and decreasing the growth rate because of competition.
 Overseeding Bermuda Lawns With Bluebonnets
 How would you like to grow weeds in your lawn this winter? Most 
                  folks recognize the reality of the situation -- they will have 
                  winter-weedy lawns whether they want them or not. To avoid winter-weedy 
                  lawns, pre-emergence turf herbicides must be applied before 
                  the winter weeds begin to germinate -- which is SOON.
  Pre-emergence turf herbicides are not created 
                  equally. Each has its own desirable characteristics in weed 
                  species successfully controlled, safety to desirable turfgrasses 
                  and ornamentals, soil longevity, and cost-effectiveness. The 
                  most commonly available pre-emergence turf herbicides are listed 
                  above. 
 All pre-emergence turf herbicides are relatively safe on Bermuda 
                  grass at recommended rates used according to label instructions. 
                  Newly sprigged or sodded areas experience root damage and inhibition 
                  following pre-emergence turf herbicide applications. Thus, recommendations 
                  are to apply pre-emergence turf herbicides at one-half the recommended 
                  rate for newly seeded Bermuda grass.
  If overseeding bermuda grass with annual rye 
                  grass or bluebonnets is considered, the areas to be over seeded 
                  SHOULD NOT be treated with pre-emergence turf herbicides within 
                  60 to 110 days before planting in the fall, depending on the 
                  herbicide applied. Pre-emergence turf herbicides are not equal 
                  in their clearance for use around ornamentals and ground covers. 
                  Herbicide labels should be inspected for tolerance of ornamental 
                  species.
 All pre-emergence turf herbicides should be watered into the 
                  root zone soil where weed seeds are located and to minimize 
                  loss from volatilization and photo-decomposition.
  BUT, who wants to kill those winter weeds which 
                  give our lawns that "scattered green" look during 
                  the dead-look of winter? If folks could carefully choose the 
                  winter weed they grow, objections certainly would be minimized. 
                  If the winter weed stayed small and rather inconspicuous until 
                  February, surely no one would object. If the winter weed chosen 
                  would bloom next spring, that would even be better. If the winter 
                  weed was designated as the state flower of Texas, the weed infested 
                  lawn could be justified for the sake of patriotism. So everyone 
                  should overseed their bermuda grass lawns with the most beautiful 
                  winter weed that exists -- the bluebonnet.   Overseeding a bermuda grass lawn with bluebonnets 
                  is easy and certainly much more rewarding than letting non-patriotic 
                  weeds persist. You can pay for herbicide to control weeds or 
                  buy seed with which to grow a weed (bluebonnet) that can out-grow 
                  and out-bloom most other winter weeds. This bluebonnet weed 
                  can also provide an additional benefit other than beautiful 
                  spring bloom -- it has the ability to take nitrogen out of the 
                  air and put it into soil for use by lawn grasses in the summer. 
                  To accomplish this patriotic weed planting of 
                  the lawn, you must first have a bermuda grass or zoysia lawn 
                  growing in an area which receives 8-10 hours of direct sun daily 
                  -- St. Augustine lawns DO NOT qualify. St. Augustine lawns do 
                  not go dormant soon enough in the fall and they begin to regrow 
                  too soon in the spring. Generally bermuda and zoysia lawns begin 
                  dormancy in October and do not begin green-up in the spring 
                  until late April or after the full bloom cycle of bluebonnets 
                  is completed. Both the green-up of bermuda and the bloom cycle 
                  of bluebonnets are moisture and temperature controlled so the 
                  two should never significantly overlap. Also, good-growing bermuda 
                  lawns can only exist in sunny locations and bluebonnets only 
                  thrive and bloom profusely in sunny locations.   The overseeding procedure involves:  (1) Aerate the bermuda turf area no later than 
                  November 10 with a soil plug-removing (rather than poking type) 
                  aerator (available at rental stores) This is a good cultural 
                  practice for compacted bermuda lawns anyway. 
 (2) Immediately after plugging the lawn area, sow ONLY scarified 
                  bluebonnet seed (bluebonnet colors such as blue and Alamo Fire 
                  ('Texas Maroon') at the rate of one pound (17,000 seed) per 
                  1000 square feet and rake the area with a lawn broom to evenly 
                  distribute the seed and to make sure some seed fall into the 
                  holes punched by the plugging machine. Not all seed has to be 
                  in the plugged holes since the turf grass surface will be "roughed" 
                  enough from the aerifying process to provide enough soil-seed 
                  contact to enable seed germination. Wildseed Farms at Fredericksburg 
                  (www.wildseedfarms.com) is a major source of the scarified 
                  bluebonnet seed.
  (3) After sowing the scarified seed (scarified 
                  seed is necessary to insure immediate and rapid germination 
                  and establishment before cold temperatures occur because of 
                  the late seeding date), thoroughly water the area. Watering 
                  during the winter SHOULD ONLY OCCUR if monthly rainfall is not 
                  received. Fall fertilization can be applied as usual. (4) Competing grassy winter weeds can be controlled by spot-treating the grassy areas with fusilade-like herbicides such as Grass-B-Gon (NOT WEED-BE-GON or BRUSH-B-GON!!), Ornamec, Hi-Yield Grass Killer, Fertilome Over-the-Top, Sethoxydim, and Fwazifop . This herbicide can be sprayed onto bluebonnets and will kill surrounding grass AND NOT DAMAGE THE BLUEBONNETS which are not grass. If, however, other broadleaf bluebonnet-like weeds such as henbit or clover begin to over-shadow the state flower, you may have to intervene with a bit of weed pulling exercise -- there is no herbicide which will kill other broadleaf weeds and not kill broad-leaved bluebonnets.  (5)AND LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, before you 
                  even plant the first bluebonnet seed with which to create a 
                  beautiful, patriotic weedy lawn, be reconciled to the fact that 
                  YOU MUST REMOVE (shred and mow) the large bluebonnet plants 
                  IMMEDIATELY after they bloom next April or you can and will 
                  damage the bermuda grass turf. You MUST realize that this is 
                  a new and sophisticated technique of beautifying a dull, brown 
                  bermuda grass lawn -- NOT a technique of insuring a bluebonnet-weedy, 
                  lawn-pasture for eternity by allowing plants to remain dying 
                  and ugly until seed are mature in June. Overseeding will occur 
                  every fall so that designs and colors can be altered and bermuda 
                  grass turf will not be damaged (summer green-up of grass will 
                  be delayed). This will also alleviate the necessity of neighborhood 
                  partitions to force you to clean up your "weed" infested 
                  lawn! 
 For more information about overseeding lawns with perennial rye (Pantera or XLT),
 search our database of previously answered questions for overseeding.
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